You are a philosopher, astrologer, author
and co-author of over seventeen books. This is impressive. If you now meet Hajo
Banzhaf of twenty years ago, what would you ask him about? What would you say to
him? Are you happy now? Do you feel satisfied as a Tarot expert and a man?
I would tell him: I am glad that you have found your path.
Let us retrospect. Let us return to
your family home in Germany. What do you remember from your own childhood
which images, events, persons?
I have only little memories. I have four brothers but they are all so much older
that I was kind of a single child. I had wonderful parents and was raised in a
warm and safe environment. It was a very Christian family and so I was very
religious when I grew up.
You had been studying languages and
philosophy before you became a famous Astrology and Tarot expert and writer.
What did the times of studies give you? What did it teach you?
It was one of the very hard times in my life. I had lost all my belief and so I
was suffering because life made no more sense to me. In this time philosophy
helped me a lot, especially Albert Camus.
What was the most important lesson
for you in that time?
That we cannot find THE answer when we ask for the sense of life. There is ONE
truth, but everyone has his own approach to it. This is why everyone has to find
his own path. If there were only ONE path, ONE right behavior, ONE way to act
correctly, it would be horrible as we would live in a dictatorship that makes
all human being equal in a awful sense. Wherever we look we can see that the
signature of life is multitude. And so is mankind. There are not two identical
people on earth just as there are not two identical horoscopes over millions of
years. So everyone has the very individual task two find HIS own answers and his
You are a seven according to
numerology. According to the traditional numerology sevens have in their
blood a passion for the ancient civilizations, the world religions, the
knowledge of magic and parapsychology. When and where did you find out about
As I said before I grew up in a very religious environment and it was very
early, may be at the age of 12, that I became interested in other religions,
first of all in Buddhism and Islam. But it was much later when I studied
Astrology that I became more and more interested in the roots of our culture,
especially in the history of Mesopotamia and Egypt.
Why were you so fascinated in Tarot
as a man? And who taught you the language of Tarot?
As with most people it was an incident that brought me in touch with Tarot. In
fact it was a Jewish woman from Poland that gave me the very first reading of my
life. I am very sorry that I do not know her name. She was in Munich only for a
couple of days. And no one knows her address where she came from or where she is
now. I had liked so much to thank her for this initial step. At that time I had
no idea what it this first encounter with the cards should mean to me and my
life. However, in the beginning Tarot was for me not more but an interesting
game. It was only when I read that wonderful book Jung and Tarot by Sallie
Nichols that I began to understand the very deep background of the Tarot
symbolism. I began to go deeper and deeper into the world of Jungian Psychology
and that was my key to understand the cards. So in a way C. G. Jung was my
Many people confuse Tarot with
destination and doom. This false belief has been passed on to us from generation
to generation. Wheat is the origin of fear of Tarot and why is it so strong?
It is a misunderstanding. Some people still believe that there is something like
the book of life where the future of the world and of every creature is
written down in every liitle detail. And they believe that astrology, Tarot or
another divination method would allow us to have a brief look inside the next
pages. Of course they are afraid that there might be something dangerous
forthcoming. But this is not an appropriate approach for nowadays mankind. The
future is not hidden for us for pedagogical reasons, we cannot see it because it
simply does not yet exist. We create it altogether in every moment by our
individual and collective decisions and behavior. As many decisions have already
been made in our life, the future is not absolutely blank. But it is not yet
fixed. This is very important to be considered when making readings and
predictions. We can see tendencies but no absolute and inevitable developments.
The knowledge that oracles give us can even help us to find a better way than
that one the cards predicted. So there is no reason to be afraid of Tarot.
Many people told the me about the
subtle soul of Tarot. A deck of Tarot cards in friendly hands can help and cure
people. A deck of Tarot cards used in black magic will pay back to its owner
with bad energy. What should we remember when working with Tarot and what is key
to friendship with Tarot? Is moderation the key?
Well the best is to always remember that Tarot is a wonderful servant but a
terrible master. It is very helpful to listen to the advice of the cards, but it
is terror if we do not dare to leave the house unless we have the allowance form
Please tell me just a few words what
Tarot used to be for you and what Tarot is for you today?
In the beginning Tarot was for me a game for fortune telling. Now it has become
a very good advisor and the Major Arcana are to me like a book of old wisdom
that talks to me in images and symbols instead of words.
Today we are using the Tarot deck as
a divination tool and also as a business help and a soul therapy. What role will
Tarot play in the future and how will we be using it?
I dont know. I have not asked the cards this question yet!
Over twenty years ago you started
going on the way of Tarot. What is your way today and what do you search for in
Tarot and in the world which surrounds you ?
For myself the most important book that I wrote is Tarot and the Journey of
the Hero (Droga Tarota in Polish). I worked on it many, many years an became
a deeper and deeper insight into life. Now I want to do a similar book: Tarot
and Alchemy. Instead of the mythological background I will show the
transformation process in the cards. and this is very fascinating as it helps us
to understand what really has to be done to come from lead to gold, from the
deep to the high, from the sick to the health, from the night to the light.
What do you do when you do not work
with the deck of Tarot cards? How do you spend your spare time? Where do you
find peace and relief?
I practice Zen Mediation for many, man years. I love to read and to write and
meet good friends almost every day.
Are you happy now? Do you feel
satisfied as a Tarot expert and a man ?
It is now 3 months ago that my wonderful wife Brigitte died at the age of
only 48 - quiet and peacefully in my arms. For this I am of course much more sad
than happy these days. But if I understand your question more in general than I
am very, very thankful for the life that I lived so far. I am glad that Tarot
and Astrology came along my way and that it helped me to understand myself an d
life in general much better and to find answers to many questions that troubled
And does Tarot conceal any secrets
If you study the world of symbols you will never come to an end or to a ground.
You can look deeper and deeper and you will understand more and more. So it is a
Thank you for conversation.